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> a strip mall as the only place to go

I don't get why so many in the comments think suburbs only have strip malls as the places to go. I've lived in many suburbs, they've always had a lot of places to go. Libraries, parks, running trails, recreation centers, sports fields, publicly subsidized water parks or pools, town square areas, public golf courses, public disc golf courses, etc. In my current suburb almost all of these kinds of features are connected by separate bike trails and transit.

There's a city park at the end of my suburban street with pavilions, playgrounds, a fishing pond with a dock/platform in it with picnic tables, picnic tables and grills dotting the tree line, a paved running trail, and a few different sports fields. No driving, not a long walk. This is the experience for pretty much my whole suburban city, not some one-off thing.



> I've lived in many suburbs, they've always had a lot of places to go. Libraries, parks, running trails, recreation centers, sports fields, publicly subsidized water parks or pools, town square areas, public golf courses, public disc golf courses, etc.

Indeed, that suburbs offered better access to many of those things than did cities (especially poor parts of cities) used to be one of the big arguments offered against suburbs. The argument was that suburbs had those things due to racism--suburbs were mostly white and so governments built those things in the suburbs.


The suburb I'm talking about is less white than the national average, by a significant margin. (50% versus 75%)


The suburbs where we live, white people are a minority. And they have all the great stuff GP mentioned.


Lol, the _nice_ suburbs had those things. Poorer suburbs? Yeah, no, you get strip malls and Chicken Express.


A lot of the same could be said for poor or wealthy urban areas.


> I've lived in many suburbs, they've always had a lot of places to go. Libraries, parks, running trails, recreation centers, sports fields, publicly subsidized water parks or pools, town square areas, public golf courses, public disc golf courses, etc.

Any grocery stores? Cafes? Restaurants? Bars?


Yes, but I'm only including free/government subsidized places, places that aren't expecting to make a profit off you being there.

There are a few restaurants and a corner store at the edge of my neighborhood. I can hop on the bus right outside my house and go to several different supermarkets, a farmers market, several cafes, several different kinds of bars, loads of restaurants, trampoline parks, movie theaters, arcades, bowling alleys, classical/music theaters, and more.

Connecting from the bus to the light rail, I can access the sports complex downtown for my favorite teams, a nice zoo, a few different universities, several suburb town center areas, the large state fairgrounds, a few different bar scenes, and one of the largest airports in the country.

Were you really trying to suggest suburbs don't have grocery stores?


The commenter they responded to specified "without buying something", but yeah they have those too




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