By "materialism" I mean that human cognition is simply an emergent property of purely physical processes in (mostly) our brains.
All the individual assumptions basically come down to that same point in my view.
1) Human intelligence is entirely explicable in evolutionary terms
What would even be the alternative here? Evolution plots out a clear progression from something multi-cellular (obviously non-intelligent) to us.
So either you need some magical mechanism that inserted "intelligence" at some point in our species recent evolutionary past, or an even wilder conspiracy theory (e.g. "some creator built us + current fauna exactly, and just made it look like evolution").
2) Intelligence strictly biological
Again, this is simply not an option if you stick to materialism in my view. you would need to assume some kind of bio-exclusive magic for this to work.
3) Silicon is somehow intrinsically bound up with computation
I don't understand what you mean by this.
> It can't even explain color
Perceiving color is just how someones brain reacts to a stimulus? Why are you unhappy with that? What would you need from a satisfactory explanation?
I simply see no indicator against this flavor of materialism, and everything we've learned about our brains so far points in favor.
Thinking, for us, results in and requires brain activity, and physically messing with our brains operation very clearly influences the whole spectrum of our cognitive capabilities, from the ability to perceive pain, color, motion, speech to consciousness itself.
If there was a link to something metaphysical in every persons brain, then I would expect at least some favorable indication before entertaining that notion, and I see none (or some plausible mechanism at the very least).
> By "materialism" I mean that human cognition is simply an emergent property of purely physical processes in (mostly) our brains.
Again, this doesn't say what a "physical process" is, or what isn't a physical process. If "physical process" means "process", then the qualification is vacuous.
> All the individual assumptions basically come down to that same point in my view.
You're committing the fallacy of the undistributed middle. Just because both the brain and computing devices are physical, it doesn't follow that computers are capable of what the brain does. Substitute "computing devices" with "rocks".
> So either you need some magical mechanism that inserted "intelligence" at some point in our species recent evolutionary past, or an even wilder conspiracy theory (e.g. "some creator built us + current fauna exactly, and just made it look like evolution").
How intelligence came about is a separate subject, and I regrettably got sidetracked. It is irrelevant to the subject at hand. (I will say, at the risk of derailing the main discussion again, that we don't have an evolutionary explanation or any physical explanation of human intelligence. But this is a separate topic, as your main error is to assume that the physicality of intelligence entails that computation is the correct paradigm for explaining it.)
> Again, this is simply not an option if you stick to materialism in my view. you would need to assume some kind of bio-exclusive magic for this to work.
This is very difficult to address if you do not define your terms. I still don't know what matter is in your view and how intentionality fits into the picture. You can't just claim things without explanation, and "matter" is notoriously fuzzy. Try to get a physicist to define it and you'll see.
> Perceiving color is just how someones brain reacts to a stimulus? Why are you unhappy with that? What would you need from a satisfactory explanation?
I already explained that materialism suffers from issues like the problem of qualia. I took the time to give you the keywords to search for if you are not familiar with the philosophy of mind. In short, if mind is matter, and color doesn't exist in matter, then how can it exist in mind? (Again, this is tangential to the main problem with your argument.)
> Thinking, for us, results in and requires brain activity, and physically messing with our brains operation very clearly influences the whole spectrum of our cognitive capabilities, from the ability to perceive pain, color, motion, speech to consciousness itself.
I never said it doesn't involve physical activity. In fact, I even granted you, for the sake of argument, that it is entirely physical to show you the basic error you are making.
> If there was a link to something metaphysical in every persons brain, then I would expect at least some favorable indication before entertaining that notion, and I see none (or some plausible mechanism at the very least).
I don't think you know what metaphysics is. Metaphysics is not some kindof woo. It is the science of being and what must be true about reality for the observed world to be what and how it is in the most general sense. So, materialism is a metaphysical theory that claims that all that exists is matter, understood as extension in space (this is what "res extensa" refers to). But materialistic metaphysics is notoriously problematic, and I've given you one of the major problems it suffers from already (indeed, eliminativism was confected by some philosophers as a desperate attempt to save materialism from these paradoxes by making a practice out of denying observation in Procrustean fashion).
> Just because both the brain and computing devices are physical, it doesn't follow that computers are capable of what the brain does.
My position is: Physical laws are computable/simulatable. The operation of our brains is explained by physical laws (only-- I assume). Thus, object classification, language processing, reasoning, human-like decisionmaking/conscious thought or any other "feature" that our brains are capable of must be achievable via computation as well (and this seems validated by all the partial success we've seen already-- why would human-level object classification be possible on a machine, but not human-level decisionmaking?).
Again: If you want human cognition to be non-replicable on paper, by algorithm or in silicon, you need to have some kernel of "magic" somewhere in our brains, that influences/directs our thoughts and that can not be simulated itself. Or our whole "thinking" has to happen completely outside of our brain, and be magically linked with it. There is zero evidence in favor of either of those hypotheses, and plenty of indicators against it. Where would you expect that kernel to hide, and why would you assume that such a thing exists?
From another angle: I expect the whole operation of our mind/brain to be reducible to physics in the exact same way that chemistry (or in turn biology) can be reduced to physics (which admittedly does not mean that that is a good approach to describe or understand it, but that's irrelevant).
I'm not a philosopher, but Eliminativism/Daniel Dennett seem to describe my view well enough.
If I say "qualia" (or "subjective experience") is how your brain reacts to some stimulus, then where exactly is your problem with that view?
> if mind is matter, and color doesn't exist in matter, then how can it exist in mind
"color" perception is just your brains response to a visual stimulus, and it makes a bunch of sense to me that this response seems similar/comparable between similarly trained/wired individuals. It is still unclear to me what your objection to that view is.
All the individual assumptions basically come down to that same point in my view.
1) Human intelligence is entirely explicable in evolutionary terms
What would even be the alternative here? Evolution plots out a clear progression from something multi-cellular (obviously non-intelligent) to us.
So either you need some magical mechanism that inserted "intelligence" at some point in our species recent evolutionary past, or an even wilder conspiracy theory (e.g. "some creator built us + current fauna exactly, and just made it look like evolution").
2) Intelligence strictly biological
Again, this is simply not an option if you stick to materialism in my view. you would need to assume some kind of bio-exclusive magic for this to work.
3) Silicon is somehow intrinsically bound up with computation
I don't understand what you mean by this.
> It can't even explain color
Perceiving color is just how someones brain reacts to a stimulus? Why are you unhappy with that? What would you need from a satisfactory explanation?
I simply see no indicator against this flavor of materialism, and everything we've learned about our brains so far points in favor.
Thinking, for us, results in and requires brain activity, and physically messing with our brains operation very clearly influences the whole spectrum of our cognitive capabilities, from the ability to perceive pain, color, motion, speech to consciousness itself.
If there was a link to something metaphysical in every persons brain, then I would expect at least some favorable indication before entertaining that notion, and I see none (or some plausible mechanism at the very least).