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What does that "point of return" look like, and who's going to actually enforce it? The regime has ignored courts' orders... I feel like only a military coup can actually do anything now.

Because I expect the 2026 or 2028 elections to be held more with Russian, Turkish, or Hungarian standards rather than 80's Hollywood movie idea of America's standard. The Dems and courts are going to cry foul, and the regime will just laugh at their faces and continue to rule.



I think the protests over the weekend show that if the 2026 election were subverted then a lot of the population would take to the streets.

Once the army fires on peaceful protestors protesting a corrupt election? That’s the point of no return.


>Once the army fires on peaceful protestors

For what it is worth, this weekend was roughly the 7th or 8th peaceful protest I have attended so far this year. It was the first in which I did not directly see a government employee firing something at a peaceful protester.


I hope there'll be enough military service people who'll defy unlawful orders, but I fear they have "Follow your superiors" drilled into them from the very start.

I remember reading on forums a decade or two ago comments by some Americans who believed in their exceptionalism, that they would never be like Nazi soldiers who just followed orders...


> I think the protests over the weekend show that if the 2026 election were subverted then a lot of the population would take to the streets.

Ok? They’ll be pummeled by the police and natguard again. Maybe whatever sort of “revolutionary republican guard” Trump eventually creates for himself too.


Bold of you to assume that there will be any Dems or courts allowed


Well, the resistance at his point is the Admiral in charge of Southern Command resigning.

Below is a video from an F-14 REO, and previous Fox News contributor, Ward Carroll. He explains exactly why Holsey resigned.

TL:DW; (But do watch!) Admiral Holsey protested to Secretary of War, Hegseth, that these killings broke all rules, and he would not stay on to follow illegal orders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjtgDKmPvoU


I always wondered about these things. On the one hand, Admiral Holsey keeps his honor and his resignation puts the spotlight on Trumps corruption and lawlessness.

On the other hand, isn't this a weeding mechanism? Eventually one will be promoted until one is found which is loyal only to MAGA and Trump, not the Constitution.


I recommend watching that video in full. Ward is true patriot to the US Constitution. He swore an oath and appears to be carrying through. He covers all possible responses that an officer has when given orders.


I watched it now. He’s honorable. The same concern was in the video. Whittling down officers until only the ones ready to follow unlawful orders.


Oops, meant RIO. I will never live this down.




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