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Sodium ion doesn't require cobalt either (no nickel as well in the newer designs), CATL is pushing that and iirc they have energy densities to a point where low end EV's can use them.

By bulk they use sodium, aluminium and iron - all of which are very abundant.

China is dominating that field as well.


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> What does anyone care about the people who attacked Israel?

I want to see theocracies gone.

> The Arab Gulf has rivers of oil required for driving human economic progress forward.

Solar energy is cheaper and it doesn't need to be trucked around on ships, threatening insanely expensive disasters.

> they have been consistent about suppressing Islamists within their borders.

... and instead funding them in Western countries, yeah. Saudi funded madrasa schools or imams funded by oilsheik countries are a massive problem, although I admit a part of that is our fault as well for not running theology studies in our universities for Islam (unlike for Christian denominations).

> Pinning Hamas on the Arab Gulf might advance your narrative, but it's provably false for anyone willing to actually probe that claim.

Well, Hamas is strongly supported by Qatar and Iran.

> LMAO. Imagine a (likely) Western European preaching about morals after ethnically cleansing three entire continents?

Just because we did massive mistakes in the past, there's no reason we have to continue doing them now.


> I want to see theocracies gone.

Israel has a long list of their own theocratic traits, fwiw. Unless you just don’t allow religious people to vote you’re never going to get a perfect secular government anywhere.


>I want to see theocracies gone.

How they choose to organize their society is none of your business. Whenever any Arab society becomes democratic, it's almost guaranteed they'll vote in Muslim Brotherhood types that'll be joined at the hip with Islamist movements. So, you don't want rapidly liberalizing benevolent monarchies, but rather democratic Islamists? Wasn't it the Americans who nudged the Egyptian military to topple Morsi after the Arab Spring brough an Islamist to power? Democracy until whoever we dislike is elected by the people.

It was the Western powers messing around with Mossadegh's democratically-elected regime in Iran that led to its fall and later down the line, the rise of the Shia-extremist Iran.

You westerners are so full of hubris. You don't know how to leave well-enough alone.

>Solar energy is cheaper and it doesn't need to be trucked around on ships, threatening insanely expensive disasters.

That's none of your business either. No western country is accelerating the renewable transition. Stay out of the way of those doing it, and don't pontificate to those providing energy for civilization now.

>... and instead funding them in Western countries, yeah. Saudi funded madrasa schools or imams funded by oilsheik countries are a massive problem, although I admit a part of that is our fault as well for not running theology studies in our universities for Islam (unlike for Christian denominations).

That's a YOU problem! Western governments hold a monopoly of violence within their own borders. You can simply shut down Islamist mosques. If you refuse, you implicitly permit their activities. There's a reason why extreme preachers are imprisoned/executed in the Arab Gulf, but they find an audience in the West. You allowed it; it's a you problem.

>Well, Hamas is strongly supported by Qatar and Iran.

And Israel too, right? Are we going to gloss over that? That these fighters are mostly orphans, whose parents and grandparents where marched out of their homes at gunpoint and had their homes stolen?

>Well, Hamas is strongly supported by Qatar and Iran.

You're still making these mistakes now, like the ongoing genocide in Gaza. You don't get to pontificate or preach. You don't have the moral capital. No one takes the West's moral posturing serious. The only people who do are developing countries paying lip service so they can get aid handouts. No one cares. Pack it up.




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