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Ok then. This, while bad, is not even in the top 50 of evil deeds the FBI is CURRENTLY doing ...


i’m not entirely sure what you’re implying here.

i could absolutely be wrong since your post was kinda vague, so forgive me if i’m wrong, but are you implying we shouldn’t attempt mitigation of bad things because other bad things are happening elsewhere?


If you read the chain of posts I directly responded to, then there's nothing vague about what I said. Here, I'll help you out:

That chain was in response to:

    >> We can not allow the FBI to work for Evil here

    > Historically speaking I can't see this as even being in the top 100 evil things the FBI has done.

    Perhaps, but we can't change the past: we can only fight against what is happening in the present to try to get a better future.
So in that context, there's nothing "vague" about my somewhat tongue-in-cheek response. Neither, you'll find, is there any attempt by me to say that one SHOULDNT stop the FBI from doing anything bad.

The pushback, by other chap & me, is about quantifying this particular misdeed as "evil", showing a remarkable lack of acknowledgement about the many, many, many other things the FBI has done (from its inception as a personal blackmailing operation by Hoover against US politicians - ring any bells?) and is doing, which are far, far worse than this "bad thing".


List not fifty, but just ten of those, I'd like to know.


If you're in public denial about the FBI not being the righteous force for "peace, justice & the american way (whatever the heck that is)", despite the copious publically available evidence & reporting (by independent journalists) to the contrary, then ... no, you really don't want to know.

(all this, over what was mostly a tongue in cheek response anyway ...)


I think neither "righteous" nor "evil" are appropriate words in this context. It's a real-world institution with the expected biases, missteps of authority, episodes of getting embroiled in political machination, etc. Demonizing it is just as naive as idealizing it. And there's probably much more of the former than the latter today, when a lot of unearned, easy cynicism is either unconsciously performative, or even worse, the outcome of a caricatural conspirative worldview.




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