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Wow these folks really want to make the humans irrelevant, to the point of even killing the joy of mindlessly (or mindfully) playing a computer game.


It is naive to think that their end-goal is to make models that play computer games. The reason they build models like this is because playing 3D computer games is the closest digital proxy for operating a robot or similar in the real world.

I also don't see how this "kills the joy" of playing computer games. You can still play games while this exists, nobody is going to stop you.


Yeah, maybe read my first line. I said they are trying to make the humans irrelevant, and in the process also kill the joy of playing computer games. And nobody is stopping me from playing the computer games, just like I can write my e-mails without being bugged and begged to let the AI write it for me, because, WTF should I process my own thoughts and write my own e-mails, right?

I have no doubt that the oligpolists in charge of our tech landscape will at some point "infuse" this shit into the games or whatever the shitterm they use for coupling the text generators with perfectly fine and deterministic software in order to raise their DAU/MAU/WAU numbers and in the process make the outcomes of using the software less reliable, non-deterministic and absolutely frustrating.


> make the humans irrelevant

Only the poor or undesirable ones. I have the (hopefully incorrect) feeling that universal basic income and similar proposals are red herrings (due to their impracticality) to distract the masses from the fact that once people with enough economic power don't need them to fulfill their wishes, they will be in no better position than cattle.

There might not be a universe where, for example, someone with ALS is able to benefit from a humanoid robot for their daily needs unless they already had enough money/resources before this incipient revolutionary technology is deployed en masse.

We are close to a point where even personal security or securing one's assets can be done with robots. So you would not even need to keep human private security happy.

Again, I really really hope this new technology benefits the average person. I'm not optimistic on that happening.


Yeah, I was hoping that AI would make games more exciting, not play them for me.

On the other hand, it opens new worlds for farming…


it feels like they've completely lost the plot.


lost the plot how? the goal isn't "let's make game developers obsolete" or "let's make ai play games". it's creating scalable virtual environments, where agents can percieve, reason, plan, and predict future states, similar to humans.

scale up thousands of these "worlds" with their own "agents", and see if intelligence emergees.


Hold down your horses mate, we don't really know what the "goal" here is as the Google themselves explicitly markets this as something to literally "make ai play games", as you put it. So yes, if they honestly push out a technology that plays a computer game instead of the player, yes they have bloody lost the plot. Everything else is just a bunch of guessing by people who would really want really hard for the LLM-fairy-tales to come true. And seeing as how full of shit the whole LLM-ecosystem is especially with regards ot resources invested so far vs. low returns (and not just financially), at this point, honestly, they should set the bar far, far, far lower than "thousands of worlds intelligence emerges blahblahblah". I genuinely believe the GenAI-porn which the OpenAI CEO suggested a while ago, maybe their best bet to achieve something meaningful. The tech is sure good at throwing around huge amounts of text and a bit of inconsistency and sloppines won't matter to their readers...at least past a certain point ;)




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