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If you want to look at successful systems, would you look at Paris, London, Berlin, Tokio, Münich, Zürich .... or Iowa City?


I wouldnt call the Munich one successful as in "nailed it". the shortcomings are many and increasingly visible


Everybody loves to complain about their own city, but compare it to US cities and its fine. I just listed a bunch of European cities that I have visited and seemed fine. My point is that if you want to 'learn' there are lots of places that you can take a look at.


Why are you picking on Iowa City? Anti-Americanism? Or is your prejudice more narrowly against the Midwest?

If I want to look at succesful systems, IDGAF where they are, but how they operate.


Are about being serious? Its not 'Anti-American' to point out basic facts that literally everybody knows.

Let's just look at some basic comparison between Iowa City and my own city of the same population (mine is somewhat larger in metro city):

about 1.05 million trips

about 50.1 million trips

Its not even close. Why would you look at some tiny US city that doesn't even have actually good results if you compare it to anybody even halfway competent. Why not look for evidence in systems that are better by LITERALLY EVERY METRIC?

That's the basic issue with looking to the US cities for evidence. Their baseline is so pathetic that 'improvements' isn't really that significant.

So maybe its time to start giving a fuck, and not cherry-picking examples to confirm your bias. Actually learn from the systems that achieve the best results.




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