The major argument you get from "why are you using Windows 7" is exactly this, companies in infrastructure argue that they still get a supported operating system in return (despite the facts, despite EOL, despite reality of MS not patching actually, and just disclosing new vulnerabilities).
And currently there's a huge migration problem because Microsoft Windows 11 is a non-deterministic operating system, and you can't risk a core meltdown because of a popup ad in explorer.exe.
I have no idea why Microsoft is sleeping at the wheel so much, literally every big industry customer I've been at in Europe tells me the exact same thing, and almost all of them were Windows customers, and are now migrating to Debian because of those reasons.
(I'm proponent of Linux, but if I were a proponent of Windows I'd ask myself wtf Microsoft is doing for the last 10 years since Windows 7)
I've read somewhere a post of alleged MS Windows developer which was about software crisis in company, namely young programmers do not want to ReleaseHandle(HWND*) so the rewrite everything (probably to C#). He gave some example that a well done functionality was rewritten without a lot of security checks. But I am unable to find it right now. It might have been on Reddit... or somewhere else...
As much as I’d love that picture to be true, how many “big industry” players are moving a sizable number of Windows machines to Debian? And how many Windows machines did they even have to begin with relative to Linux?
On the client side where this “non-deterministic” OS issue is far more advanced, moving away is so rare it’s news when it happens. On the data center side I’ve seen it more as consolidation of the tech stack around a single offering (getting rid of the few Windows holdouts) and not substantially Windows based companies moving to Linux.
It’s about growth. Are any developers choosing to base their new backend on Windows in 2025? Or is Windows only really maintaining the relationships they already have, incapable of building a statistically significant network of new ones?
Even Azure, the new major revenue stream of Microsoft is built on Linux!
> Even Azure, the new major revenue stream of Microsoft is built on Linux!
Exactly, and has been for some time now. MS wasn’t asleep at the wheel, they just stopped caring about your infra. The money’s in the cloud now, especially the SaaS you neither own nor control.
My question was if these large companies moving away from Windows are just clearing the last remnants of the OS rather than just now shifting their sizable Windows footprint to Linux.
I’m trying to understand what was OP reporting. On the user side almost nobody is moving their endpoints to Linux, on the DC side almost nobody has too many Windows machines left to move to Linux after years of already doing this. The trend was apparent for years and years.
It's good while the software you run on it still supports that OS, for example the big one would be anything build upon Chromium (or electron) framework which deprecated win7 support when Microsoft ended ESU support (EOL +3 years).
Yes on dosbox… try to run a directx6 game which won't run in dosbox but will need to rely on microsoft for compatibility and then let me know how it goes.
The major argument you get from "why are you using Windows 7" is exactly this, companies in infrastructure argue that they still get a supported operating system in return (despite the facts, despite EOL, despite reality of MS not patching actually, and just disclosing new vulnerabilities).
And currently there's a huge migration problem because Microsoft Windows 11 is a non-deterministic operating system, and you can't risk a core meltdown because of a popup ad in explorer.exe.
I have no idea why Microsoft is sleeping at the wheel so much, literally every big industry customer I've been at in Europe tells me the exact same thing, and almost all of them were Windows customers, and are now migrating to Debian because of those reasons.
(I'm proponent of Linux, but if I were a proponent of Windows I'd ask myself wtf Microsoft is doing for the last 10 years since Windows 7)